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#1 ARCHIVED POSTS FROM
SPECIAL EDUCATION FOLDER: TIME OUT FOR AUTISTIC STUDENTS
MAY 2, 1995 - JULY 27, 1995
FILE NAME: SPEDAUT3.TXT
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Subj: Is time out effective
Date: 95-05-02 19:44:58 EDT
From: LouiseK446
Does anybody know of any research on time out used for autistic students?
From what I have seen it is not an effective means of modifying behavior.
LouiseSubj: Re:Is time out effective
Date: 95-05-02 23:21:41 EDT
From: Fenley
This form of behavior modification is a slow process, but has worked. Where
I work we reinforce for good behaviors and ignore or disipline for others.
Time out , for us, is a way to protect other students, teachers, and the
student who is the agressee. It works for many of our students...but no
program works for everyone...Subj: pdd
Date: 95-05-03 23:02:47 EDT
From: User1365
do any of you teach pdd kids? do you know of any highly skilled professionals
who are involved with thes kids?Subj: Re:Is time out effective
Date: 95-05-05 23:59:43 EDT
From: SJGLASER
Joe Olmni at USM in Hattiesburg is doing some fascinating research on
time-out. Basically, there are two important things that must happen first
for time-out to work (1) effective delivery of instruction and (2) time-in.
The first boils down to using a calm, lower pitched "now listen to me" voice,
asking only once (not the Walmart kid routine "I'm going to count to
3...1,2,2.5,...") and being consistent in requiring compliance. The second
is lavishing lots of positive reinforcement on the child. Also, the time-out
is short and sweet...can't afford to waste precious time on these kids. Sit
them right on the floor near you, tell them "you're in a time-out because
" and turn your back--no touching, talking, or looking at them. As soon as
the child is quiet, bring them out of time-out and repeat the instruction
that originally caused the time-out. Joe Olmni say's they can get the
time-out down to 10 seconds and double the compliance rate!!
Bottomline--the child won't feel punished by time-out if he doesn't enjoy
being around you!!
Tammy, a momSubj: Re:Is time out effective
Date: 95-05-07 19:17:37 EDT
From: PSLS
Time out is effective for some behaviors but not all. Some autistic children
try unacceptable behaviors to get out of a situation or task. If you give
them timeout for this then you are rewarding the bad behavior.Subj: time
out/autism
Date: 95-05-08 10:52:37 EDT
From: CarolLeeJB
Can you give the description of what occured? or what occurs with the
autistic child...what are they doing ...type of behaviors that you are
questioning?
Id like to have more info before giving opinion.
Thanks,
Carol Berger
CarolLeeJB@aol.comSubj: Re:Is time out effective
Date: 95-05-09 00:05:02 EDT
From: GCallanan
IS IT REALLY EFFECTIVE?Subj: Re:Is time out effective
Date: 95-05-09 23:33:03 EDT
From: SusanS29
Is time-out effective?
Depends on how it's done.
Please post in both upper and lower-case.
ALL CAPS IS HOW WE "SHOUT" ON-LINE. :)Subj: Re:Is time out effective
Date: 95-05-12 17:53:26 EDT
From: Vnagy
Time out can be very effective, providing the student wants to be in the
activity. Before starting any program, look to see why the child is behaving
that way. Check for his motivation...does he try to avoid the task?...is he
confused or frustrated?...trying to gain attention?, etc. All of these
things need to be taken into account before time out ( or any program) is
started.Subj: alternative method
Date: 95-05-13 20:30:31 EDT
From: Boulevard
We had a specialist come talk to our staff about successful techniques for
working with one of our PDD kids. She stated very clearly that his day
needed to be broken up into smaller chunks - about 15 minutes of instruction
or activity, then 2-3 minutes of a desired activity of his(in his case,
puzzles). She also said that the staff needed to be consistent about stating
directions in positive terms - "tell him what you want him to do; don't tell
him what not to do, because that's exacly what he'll do." I've listened to
some of the interaction others have with him, and it's true - we tend to
say,"John, stop (whatever behavior)." When we state clearly what he needs to
do, it's much more successful. Ex. "John, you need to put your hands on the
table." ..We also use a visual schedule to outline the day - it helps reduce
his anxiety and makes transitions much smoother. We do time him out if he
doesn't respond to positive instructions - which can be removal from the
table or group, or simply us looking away & not interacting with him for a
set period of time. Subj: gifted & autistic
Date: 95-05-22 21:25:19 EDT
From: Jordybrett
Does anyone have a child who is autustic and in any kind of gifted program? I
need info on this for my son who is starting inclusion kindergarten in
SeptemberSubj: Discreet Trial
Date: 95-05-26 20:00:17 EDT
From: JWBCO
I am looking for information regarding discreet trial for children with
Autism. Please reply to screen name JWBCO. Thanks.Subj: Re:pdd
Date: 95-05-28 20:34:41 EDT
From: DonMJr
Hi I teach a special needs preschool program. I have four children who are
identified as PDD. We follow the Greenspan philosphy and found it to be very
successful. We have also become aware of a philosphy known as Lovas that may
also be helpfull. Within the classroom environment and at home our students
are exposed to Sesory Integration therapy.
Ask your Occupational Therapist for more info. I have seen S.I. work
wonders! Good Luck. -SueSubj: Re:Is time out effective
Date: 95-06-09 20:15:37 EDT
From: SusanStout
Time out doesn't eliminate the behavoir permenately.It's better to chart the
behavior and find out the antecedent and then you can try to end the
behavior.Subj: Re:gifted & autistic
Date: 95-06-14 21:56:42 EDT
From: Spiritflut
I am an Orff schulwerk specialist who has included several austic children in
my gifted programs in music, art, and movement! I am also an Auditory
Enhancement Trainer and have a special place in my heart for autistic kids.
They do work well in many situations.Subj: Re:gifted & autistic
Date: 95-06-14 21:57:47 EDT
From: Spiritflut
I am an Orff schulwerk specialist who has included several austic children in
my gifted programs in music, art, and movement! I am also an Auditory
Enhancement Trainer and have a special place in my heart for autistic kids.
They do work well in many situations.Subj: Re:alternative method
Date: 95-06-15 23:16:12 EDT
From: DCherry569
What has been described above is basic effective teaching. I have found that
time out (e.g. time out from positive reinforcement as it is technically
called) is ineffective with my students with Autism, because they are
actually reinforced by the time away from the group. Consequences, in
general, are a very difficult concept for kids with Autism. What has anyone
else found to be effective in teaching cause and effect??Subj: Re:Discreet
Trial,
Date: 95-06-15 23:21:25 EDT
From: DCherry569
I have found this to be effective with a variety of new tasks, particularly
when there is a small portion of a bigger task which is causing trouble or
confusion for the student. It is also important though to teach in a most
natural setting possible and to be as consistent as possible when not using a
discreet trial.Subj: Discreet Trial
Date: 95-06-16 00:34:14 EDT
From: WmDYoung
I have a 10 year old with newly diagnosed Asperger's. Please explain what is
Discreet Trial. We are trying to learn all we can. WmDYoungSubj:
Re:Discreet Trial
Date: 95-06-17 15:21:23 EDT
From: NickyRK
I also have a youngster newly diagnosed with Asperger's. Does your child
attend a special school? We have been refused special schooling for our
youngster and are trying to find information. If anyone has any information
about this please email to NickyRK or leave here. Thank you.Subj:
Re:alternative method
Date: 95-06-17 23:02:53 EDT
From: JLMD32
What functions as a punisher (something that reduces a behavior) needs to
individualized - so time out should not be a "blanket" treatment. You need
to look and see what function does the behavior you want to reduce serve.
Data-based decisions are vital when addressing treatment issues.Subj:
Re:gifted & autistic
Date: 95-06-18 04:23:16 EDT
From: Hay Pat
Dear Spiritflut:
Could you explain what Orff schulwerk is? Where does one get information on
Auditory Enhancement training?
Thank you for any help.
Hay PatSubj: RE:Asperger's Public School
Date: 95-06-18 22:02:15 EDT
From: MKGY
Our son will be in the 4th grade. IEP time increased from 1.5 hours to 3 in
resource room. We will try and keep him in the regular classroom as much as
possible. We have rights of refusal for situations that we know will cause
stress. IE, Field Days, Field Trips, etc. We are so lucky to have a school
staff that is helpful and caring and so cooperative. He's had a hard time in
school and Some tantrums. School/home used Time out as a Technique for
discipline. Still unsure if its the best way. Subj: Research on effective
methods
Date: 95-06-20 10:23:57 EDT
From: Vfordpcdi
For those of you looking for articles on effective teaching methods for
children with autism, please consult the Journal of Applied Behavior
Analysis. There are some landmark research articles on the Lovaas method,
the use of photographic activity schedules to promote independence, parents
as teacher and therapist, discreet trial training, etc. I think it is
extremely important to go with a technology that is data based in terms of
measuring performance and effectiveness. I hope this information helps.Subj:
Re:Research on effective methods
Date: 95-06-27 11:23:37 EDT
From: JAndrewsNV
Anybody had any experience with chiropractic & autism? I understand it
helps; am looking for research.Subj: Re:Research on effective methods
Date: 95-06-27 14:30:55 EDT
From: SusanS29
There really isn't any reasont to think chiropractic will help a child with
autism. Please be very careful. Most people's money is finite and there might
be much better ways for you to spend your money to help this child.
I saw one research study where chiropractors claimed to help students with
learning disabilities and attentional problems by manipulating the bones of
the head.
The bones of the head don't move.Subj: Re:Discreet Trial
Date: 95-07-02 01:18:52 EDT
From: Kathy1060
I have a three year old diagnosed with autism....am having a tough time
accepting the pre-school they want to place him in...please let me know of
your child's preschool experiences...things you like/did not like....how
teachers and aides interacted with children...if any of the other children
could speak...etc..Send to Kathy1060...I would greatly appreciate it...Subj:
Re:Discreet Trial
Date: 95-07-02 01:21:10 EDT
From: Kathy1060
Forgot in include in first message that I have no idea what 'discreet trial"
is and would appreciate feedback.Subj: Re:Discreet Trial/Autism
Date: 95-07-22 23:52:53 EDT
From: KIT TD7
There is a school in Levittown, NY which specializes in education of children
with autism. They primarily use the discreet trial format and graduated
guidance techniques. Anyone wishing for more information regarding these
procedures should contact the school for more information or inquire about
visitor's days. The Nassau/Suffolk Services for the Autistic (NSSA), 208
Division Ave., Levittown, NY 11756, (516) 579-5087. This school utilizes
applied behavior analysis, and is associated with the Princeton Child
Development Institute (PCDI).Subj: Re:pdd
Date: 95-07-25 23:30:47 EDT
From: Loyola 73
Hi,
Could you tell me more about the Greenspan Philosophy for PDD. EMAIL Loyola
73.
ThanksSubj: Re:Research on effective methods
Date: 95-07-27 00:13:06 EDT
From: CarolLeeJB
Relaxation therapy might somehow be associated with treatment by a
chiropractor...or that children with autism walk on their toes (frequently in
the population) and may also be cause to see if the child needs corrective
measures for back problems, but I know of no other reason to see a
chiropractor for autism...where did you hear of this? How old is your child?
Would like to know more of your situation...
CarolLeeJB@aol.comSubj: Re:Discreet Trial
Date: 95-07-27 00:15:28 EDT
From: CarolLeeJB
How old is your child? What kind of Special School did you request? What
kind of program do they have locally?CarolLee@aol.com